THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT FOR 'THIS WEEK' ON July 3, 2016 and it will be updated.
MARTHA RADDATZ, ABC HOST: Now for more on all this, we have top surrogates from both the candidates from the crucial swing states of Ohio and Pennsylvania. We'll talk to former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum shortly.
But first, Ohio Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown joins me from Cleveland, a Clinton supporter.
And Senator Brown, I want to start with you with the major news this weekend.
Are you worried at all about possible indictments coming from this case?
SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D), OHIO: I'm not really, thank you, Ms. Raddatz, for -- for the question and for having me on the show.
I'm not worried about it. I see what Secretary Clinton has done. She has -- she's released 55,000 pages of emails, 31,000 different emails. She's released her tax returns since 1977. She's released her health care records. She's always been willing to talk to authorities.
I think what the story is missing is all that we don't know about Donald Trump. He won't release his taxes. We don't have his real health care records. He hasn't filled in any of the blanks in what he's going to do. We see every week or two, we see another story of a small business that went out of business because Donald Trump...
RADDATZ: Senator Brown, I want to stay with these e-mails.
BROWN: I understand. But that's a contrast we need to make. Go ahead.
RADDATZ: I know you want to make the contrast, but I want to stick with the emails. You sort of dismised the possibility of indictments. They've been investigating this since.
BROWN: I answered your question.
RADDATZ: They've been investigating this since August. You really don't think any indictments are possible?
BROWN: I don't think that will happen. I gave you my answer. I don't think it will happen. But I think the story needs to be that, in part -- I'm not telling you how to do your job, of course, Ms. Raddatz.
RADDATZ: And please call me Martha.
BROWN: Certainly look at what Hillary's done. What's that?
RADDATZ: Please call me Martha.
BROWN: OK, I'll call you Martha, fine.
I just think that, you know, we certainly it's your job to explore all that you can about Secretary Clinton. But it's also our jobs, including the Clinton campaign, to find out more about Donald Trump. And I think the more we know -- elections are about contrasts -- I trust Hiillary Clinton in part because for a whole lot of reasons, in part, because I know how she started her career advocating for the Children's Defense Fund. She didn't do off to Manhattan or to Washington to make a lot of money.
And I think she's followed that through the course of her career. And I think that is part of the story, too.
RADDATZ: OK, if there are no indictments, if she and her aides do not face any sort of legal action, has the meeting between Attorney General Lynch and Bill Clinton called into question the integrity of the process?
BROWN; No, I don't -- it was unfortunate. You have all made that case. And I think others have made it, too.
I wished it hadn't happened. But I think the FBI will do its job. I mean, I've seen the authorities in my career in the House and Senate, I've seen federal authorities do their jobs regardless of political machinations and political pressure sometimes. I fully expect them to. And I think that -- I think there won't be an indictment. And I think that means she did what many secretaries of state have done in the past.
I mean, she released more emails and more pages of emails and more records than any of her predecessors of secretary of state, even before she was actually running for president. I think that speaks to her integrity.
RADDATZ: But this trust issue really does resonate out there. I have been out in Pennsylvania and your state, in Ohio, all this week. It goes to the heart of the problems Hillary Clinton faces, in West Virginia, in Pennsylvania, Ohio, she acknowledges she has a problem with Trump.
Voters see trump as more trustworthy in some of these places. She has acknowledged the problem this week noting she has work to do on this front. What can she do to change this?
BROWN: Well, I -- first, you explain it. In part, when she left the secretary of state's office, her favorable ratings all the polling was very, very positive. Then, if you remember, all the Benghazi stuff started, and all the hearings, and the majority leader -- Republican majority leader of the House said those hearings were to bring her poll numbers down.
So, we see what's happened. And I think, again, once voters make that contrast that Hillary in fact has been a very good public official from her time as a lawyer to her time as first lady to her time in the Senate to her time as -- and now the most qualified person to run for president in my lifetime against a guy who has been a hypocrite in his business dealings, made a lot of money off trade policy, but now he wants to be the guy against the trade agreements.
I think that contrast is going play. I know you spent a lot of time in the Mahoning Valley talking to the folks in Youngstown. I know what the auto rescue did for the Mahoning Valley that President Obama and the Democrats -- and a few Republicans in the House and Senate -- did.
And I also know -- the suit I'm wearing was made by union workers six miles from my home in Cleveland where we sit now.
Donald Trump outsources his ties to China. He outsourced his furniture to Turkey. I know a company in Ohio that could make that furniture in Archibald, Ohio. I know companies in Cleveland that could make the suits and the other things that Donald Trump has outsourced.
RADDATZ: Let's turn to trade. It did dominate the campaign trail this week. Trump accused Clinton of selling out workers by supporting NAFTA and now TPP, and Clinton fired back on his business record.
You support Hillary Clinton. But listen to what you and Donald Trump have said about trade.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BROWN: Hard-working men and women who have made America the strongest nation in the world are betrayed by Washington's trade policy.
TRUMP: Our workers' loyalty was repaid with total betrayal.
BROWN; It will continue to cost us jobs unless we renegotiate a better NAFTA.
TRUMP: I'm going to tell our NAFTA partners that I intend to immediately renegotiate.
BROWN; There's no guarantee that China can't backdoor into this agreement.
TRUMP: China will enter the TPP through the back door.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RADDATZ: Sounds like you have similar views.
BROWN: Well done. Good research.
A couple of things, first of all, all I've heard with Donald Trump, the guy who made a lot of money from outsourcing jobs to China, to Mexico, to Turkey, to Slovenia, to other countries I'm forgetting right now, the guy that made a lot of money guy that made a lot of money from that is now against this trade policy, but never, ever raised his voice against it when congress was considering it.
But the second point is, look what Hillary is proposing. Trump has not proposed anything we're going to do more tariffs and these are bad trade deals. I agree they're bad trade deals, of course I agree with that. But Hillary -- as Secretary Clinton has proposed a trade prosecutor aimed specifically at China-U.S. trade. She's proposed tripling the number of trade enforcers. And I know what trade enforcement does. I to to the International Trade Commission almost once a month, arguing for stronger enforcement. And we usually win on this in this administration.
I know what Secretary Clinton -- she understands rules of origin in autos. That's real jobs in auto supply chain in my state. That's why -- that a really important part of TPP that doesn't work for our country. She recognizes that.
She understands what...
RADDATZ: But throughout her tenure as secretary of state there was all-out advocacy for TPP. How are your voters going to believe that she's changed?
BROWN They're going to believe because she clearly understands these issues and she talk in great depth about them in individual interviews and rallies. You get none of that from Donald Trump.
And she was secretary of state, her boss was advocating a trade policy. It was her boss. She was the secretary of state for the president. Of course she's going to the take those positions.
But I trust her on this. I've spent a lot of time talking trade with her on the phone, in person, in my state, in Washington. Her office was right across the hall from my mine when I came to the senate. She strikes me as somebody more than most politicians who actually listens and doesn't talk all the time. And she -- I am convinced, I've staked my reputation on what -- and I've written a book on trade, and nobody has fought harder against NAFTA, CAFTA...
RADDATZ: Senator Brown, just quickly -- to wrap this up. I've got to ask you one quick question about vice presidential speculations surrounding you. Have you been contacted or vetted by the campaign?
BROWN: I'm simply not going to speculate on that. I love the job i get to do working everything from auto rescue to the earned income tax credit.
RADDTAZ: Have you been contacted?
BROWN: ...to those question. I'm not going to speculate. I think I have answered that.
RADDATZ: I'm not asking you to speculate. Have you been contacted?
BROWN: I understand. You've heard my answer. That's what you're going to get. And talk to the Secretary Clinton campaign.
RADDATZ: OK, thanks very much for joining us, Senator Brown.
BROWN: Sure, glad to do it.
Thank you, Martha.
RADDATZ: Thank you.
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